I bought 2012 X1 with 85,000km and after reading different posts makes me worried about the timing chain issue, I called the dealer they said there is no recall on this vehicle except driver side air bag! https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158 1/6/2014, Boy thats a old bulletin,,,,but yes this could be your issue,,,,you just need to check your integration level and make sure its below what is required. No turnover on start at all. Hello BMW Technician, I have a 2011 BMW 535i with N55 engine. In US the N20/N26 timing chain extended limited warranty is 7 years/70000 miles, so what is extended coverage available in your country? I have a 2013 528xi. or ground from chassis to engine? Id rather not pay more money. I am quite surprised to see that in Europe there is no one who has reported this problem, whereas with you in the United States it seems very frequent. with the following integration levels: Hello there, loving your info. Ask an Expert Car Questions BMW Questions 3,220 Satisfied Customers Roger is online now Related BMW Questions Have an issue after replacing valve cover gasket the car has Today I drove it 20 miles to several stores and it worked fine. 131808 Intermittent Exhaust variable camshaft timing control (VANOS) cost start position not reached. or Reset codes and adaptations without increment wheel. 131501 VANOS, intake, starting from cold: Non-adjustable 131808 VANOS, exhaust, starting from cold: Position not reached . I thinks it just some random fault that comes up. I assume that the f31 328i RW could also be affected ? has reduced power output. I went to the shop today to see what codes it was and i got a code: P13C0. Maybe I should replace them? 133E10 -permanent valvetronic system: deactivated, adjustment fault too frequent https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158. Even though work time labor operation code 61 00 006 ends in 006, it is not considered a Main I have a SULEV vehicle so its definitely an N20 engine. It is a total mystery (to me) as to why it works now. (not including CAS) Yes go to the dealership and tell them about the issue and the bulletin. 120408 Intermittent Charging pressure control: switch-off as consequence So far I reset it and it's gone and drove it like 30 miles but kinda worried . she said light came on oil pressure error stop immidiatly Dealer wants almost 300 euro to check the timing chain. Ok heres another vanos unit off a 2011 328 N51 engine,,,,this is the intake vanos unit that is now in several pieces,,,,the customer was just driving on the highway when the engine just lost power. I would get this taken care now,,,,,I dont like that whine noise and that rattle noise during start up,,,take care of this now. Hello, Since its not on the list, does this mean this timing chain guide failure is highly unlikely? still the same problem. 131501 vanos inlet cold start not controllable and 120408 boost pressure control cut off pressure rise blocked 2011 x3. I have a 2015 x1 with an April 2015 manufacture date. the battery charger is required to be attached before performing the Vehicle Test. While mine does have some kind ofticking noise when it starts up, and I had noticed it prior to buying it, a mechanic I had check out the vehicle prior to the purchase said that all BMW engines make that noise and it is nothing to worry about. Ive change engine mount, spark plug, coil but problem is the same. Good day. The engine is running and seems to run pretty good although its still has that ticking sound that it had before. Please advise, if this is something serious that could have damaged the engine. Labor Operation: Labor Allowance: Description: I want to make sure this issue is fixed. are the codes it wont start i have a timing chain set on the way have you seen any of these engine survive after Im going to trade. Labor Operation: Labor Allowance: Description: labor operation. Specific eligible repairs may also be covered by the terms of the Federal, State or BMW Emissions no dtc but it complete its combustion cycle i check for spark, fuel and compression was reading ok on all 4 cylinder but there black smoke and strong gas smell out the exhaust.I allso found wire harness for dinantronics box which is pigger back to DME was rubbing under the eng. The boost disable was cleared by itself. The head mechanics at BMW Santa Monica have no idea either. I have changed timing chain on 2013 BMW 328i xdrive this is the codes Im getting 131501 120408 131908 . if I have used the tool how it is possible no to be on timing ?! I own a 2015 X1 with a manufacture date of April 2014. N20 engines were released in 2011 and began phasing out in 2016 in favor of the new BMW B48 engine. Here is a video of whats happening today. The original window sticker says my car was 65% made in Germany and 5% in Canada or something. Replace the solenoid that the code followed. No one knows what this CDA904 code means. troubleshooting with the applicable test plan for the fault(s) stored. This test sets a desired crankshaft angle for the VANOS and measures the actual angle. Covered under the terms of the BMW New Car/SAV Limited Warranty or the BMW Certified Pre- The cam is at -18 degrees and not changing. 'nhUO}gFXA}_+7"F.\ztVw@%/`>vny#(`YN:2ed_zI.. Ive enjoyed your blog and I hope you will start posting again. Thanks! With the VANOS solenoids removed, the spring loaded VANOS spool valve moved in and out easily. Changed the solenoid valves. This website is not affiliated with BMW AG in any way, and should not be confused with the websites of BMW AG, BMW M GmbH. Andreas first and foremost thank you for sharing your knowledge. This seems correct, but I'm looking to avoid removing the valve cover. test drove car, get a few codes. What me be causing this? F010-13-07-506 for the F10 BMW like to keep some things to them selfs,,,,they dont want to release any information if they dont have to. Thanks for this. 131501 VANOS, intake, starting from cold: Non-adjustable The process of deleting the faults and restarting the car was performed many times. Thoughts?? It all depends are your production date of your car,,,you can also tell the dealer about this bulletin. Do you know if the new Vanos assemblies comes with the upgraded bolts or do I still need to change out the 4 Vanos Gear bolts on a new assembly? My vehicle was produced in 1/2013 with N20 engine and is currently at 97K miles, I have previously posted my engine whining sound in your blog and you said it was timing chain whining, I took a picture of my timing chain guide rail when replacing valve cover gasket and there was a slight crack on timing chain guide rail do you think thats enough evidence for the dealership to approve timing chain warranty on my vehicle? First you lock out the engine in TDC and then there is a tool to hold both camshafts in place then you can loosen the vanos bolts,,,,,question why do you want to time the engine,,,,the timing doesnt change unless something else is wrong,,,,or if one of the vanos units are locked in place. F10 Please advice. The engine sounds exactly the same as the first time it started after the timing chain installation. 2013 BMW X1 E84 WITH N2O MOTOR 11400ML Hi, I have N20 with rough idle. Yesterday when i was driving the car normally on the hwy the drivetrain malfunction popped up and car went into a reduced power mode. check got vanos dtc come to relies i switch the cam gears when i install them so i correct it after veh cranks but no start check timming over like 3 time it good. Most likely you have broken timing chain guides and the whole timing set will need to be replaced. The car is as we speak back to the dealer for further diagnose and they have seen a slight difference in the crankshaft position or something like that.. one of the shafts was not in the correct angle. 2D5A VANOS, intake, control fault, camshaft jammed THNX. repairs to the engine valve train assembly. Nic. The Service Engine Soon lamp and Engine Malfunction warning are illuminated, and the vehicle The VANOS cold start faults would reappear within 15 seconds of startup. I have NO idea why haha, but i have a brand new tranny for it and got it installed by the dealership, been about 7k miles since that. 130304 F10, F25, F30, F31 and F34: We purchased it from a BMW dealership, they didnt mention any potential issues with the timing chain components. Hi. Yes it does not say no signal. Today I changed Chain tensioner as preventative maintenance, but soon I start the car, I got Drivetrain Malfunction. Could you please guide me? My mechanic said he had already replaced the Vanos sol valves and still getting the same codes. iTrader: ( 0) After change chain tensioner - Drivetrain Malfunction. 2D55 VANOS, intake, starting from cold: Non-adjustable So I drive a 2011 335i N55 and yesterday I was driving home and on the way i was trying to pass a car, hit the gas and as soon as i started to pick up, a malfunction light came on and immediately went into LIMP mode. I ended up scanning and getting below codes. Also can sparkplugs have any influence to this situation? It cannot be timing. You could replace the tensioner if you like,,,you should be ok since your car was probably built in 2015.,,,,you could ask your local dealership on what they think about your car and the timing chain issue. He said the technician found this out by putting a scope in the engine but didnt explain it any further, nor did he address what the diagnostic code was for the sensor being on. Now getting error 131501. bimmerfest.com is not in any way affiliated with Bayerische Motoren Werke AG. 120408- Status history-boost pressure control; shut-down as a consecutive reaction. Thanks you! Code 132408 Vanos Exhaust Intake camshaft not locking at start up Yes took off the valve cover 3 times so far. He believes that its not enough oil pressure in the tensioner therefore is not tight as it should be. Having the same. I have a 2013 N20 engine in my X3 and want to remove the actuators to either clean or replace. The engine is running rough at idle. Question,,,,,why did we replace the DME with a used one,,,that might be a problem,,,,a used DME can not be used because it is programmed and encoded to a different car,,,,what is wrong with your DME? The starter and engine appear to make no attempt to start. A service advisor at a reputable independent repair shop was concerned about the brief rattle/stutter (5 second mark) in this video upon ignition. The timing chain & guides are bathed in engine oil, not fuel. Do you think is this something related to eccentric shaft sensor? bimmerfest.com is an independent BMW enthusiast website owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc. which consists of the last 7 digits of the Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). Please note the displayed battery voltage reading in the repair order comments section. everything in the vehicle works extremely well. Whether the engine is cold or warm, the VANOS faults appear within 15 seconds of startup. This way I dont have to set up any timing if I do it one at the time. My car has very low mileage (just under 40,000) is in excellent condition (although it does sit outside) and I love it, but the thought of a catastrophic engine failure on such an expensive vehicle with very low mileage is of great concern. no hesitation. ISTA says these errors: and as necessary Hi Im planning to buy a second hand 2015 BMW X3 xDrive 28i (F25) and its about 65000 miles now. and it seems like they are about to settle this case on 9/2/2020. Hi Andreas, This question has appeared in your blog before. I would like the tackle the Vanos issue first and go from there. I have maintained it meticulously. Direksiyon kilidi/Kontak alteri BMW paralar 47738. should I buy timing lock kit to lock the cams and cranksshaft in place? I had 2014 328i and having no issue yet so far,but im concern about the timing chain since my car is on the list of having problems with the timing chain,i checked the vin number to see if there is a recall for that and did not see anything,what should i do to double check ?should i go to dealership and just tell them about this bulleti? 61 21 528 Refer to KSD2 Charging battery its really a shame that BMW does not step up. Work time (WT) labor operation 61 00 006 requires an individual punch time. Yes you can check the oil pressure,,,also when the mechanic performed the timing chain repairs the oil pan was off and hopefully he checked the oil pump screen for and debris and cleaned it out. Its a bit like on the list, the block of 20i and 28i is quite close, so why one seems more impacted than the other (the higher torque?). But that is all. Hey, The oil filter element appears to collapsed / sucked in at the center. Did they use a different timing chain guide before 06/2012 ? The improved DME software was introduced This is a common issue on the N20 engine. So if you treat your BMW well and extend the life of the timing chain and guides, you get punished for it. WARRANTY INFORMATION Is the fact that my vehicle is not on your list reassuring? If one of the applicable faults listed above is not stored in the DME fault memory then continue Cleaned spark plugs and as the mileage was 65000 so I changed the timing chain with a TOOL also. Also camshaft sensors also does not give any data to DME. I dont know who to believe the P2609 is for intake heater circuit which doesnt make any sense on your car,,,and now the dealership telling you he took a borescope and told you no oil circulating that is hard to do when you can see the oil pump or the oil pressure with out hooking up a oil pressure gauge,,,this all doesnt make any sense to me,,,,the dealer should of told you what faults the car has and what is causing the faults. Hi bmwtechnician, Or turbo charger, Do you guys fix the issue ?! He discovered it was the engine to chassis ground strap. Other engines may have this same scenario, but it's not typical. Could you please listen to my video and let me know if I have a problem with timing chain? Wont restart. work, claim this work with the applicable defect code and labor operations listed in KSD2. Intake Camshaft: Installation faulty. You can't just bolt it up and clear the fault. reference point is the same? Location: Chicago. Code 130104 Vanos intake control fault camshaft stuck BMW Fault Code Lookup Enter a BMW fault code (P or hex), complete the Captcha, and click "Search" P-Codes will start with a P and are usually generated by generic scanners. Thank You very much for your help. 3. 131401 VANOS, exhaust, starting from cold: Non-adjustable I just can't find a procedure on removing the valve cover and locking down the cams. Yes you are correct,,,why it is not on the list we dont know,,,this list is something that BMW came up with and they didnt tell us how they came about which car model and years, Hi i have an f34 320i gt xdrive with 97000km 04.07.2013 From Norway cant here the noise but im a bit stresed about it one bmw dealership said that the car is not on the extendet waranty list.Should i drive until 150k-km and change the chain even if i dont here it or wait until he makes the noise.If is x-drive does it get used faster then Rw.And why so many 328I afected and not so many 320i? If you are interested here is the rest of the story. Enter the Chassis Number, I want to reset the timing on my N55 but I cant lock the Vanos units in its default position. He indicated it was a timing chain waiting to fail- do you agree? After many iterations I decided to restart the engine without clearing the boost disable fault and amazingly the VANOS cold start faults didnt appear. Yes you need to buy the camshaft locking tools,,,,the timing will slip,,,,you need a t-stat also,,,,the charge pressure fault may be due to the vanos unit,,,,the trailer issue is a random fault,,,,hope this helps. This could be a fuel issue,,,but BMW is not saying anything about the problem. I personally know of one person that had a total loss on their X1 engine in Saskatchewan back in 2016 before BMW Canada acknowledged a widespread issue with the timing chain on the N20. N52 E91N 320i N46N E90N 335d E30 318i M10 e93 335i F10 520d E30 320i E84 X1 16i f20 116i f23n M240i F15 X5 30dX E46 325xi F32 428i N20 F10 520i e93 335i F25 X3 . Ok Ill do that. I ask because here ethanol is not too widespread and should not represent more than 1% of vehicles on the gasoline market. I dont expect we will put more than 5-6k kilometers per year on it. Yesterday I did get all the fault codes cleared. The car has lost complete power and now I the drive train malfunction light on, engine light on, low oil pressure light on. I assume it will need to be replaced just because its higher in milage but do you think BMW would warranty it out knowing that theyve said it was lifetime of the vehicle? Defect Code: 11 36 01 96 00 The timing was checked several times after installing the new chain. to performing repairs, please see SI B01 02 11 for Emissions Warranty Coverage and refer to the Hey, I have a 2014 BMW 428i (F32 with an N20 engine) it is just under 70k around 61,000 I believe and it looks like it was manufactured in 9/2013. I have done my timing chain after finish car starts up runs but would not idle until cel come on. Seems like this is on the list. Search button, and then enter the applicable flat rate labor operation in the FR code field. Thank you in advance. Clean both solenoids and reinstall. Code 131501 Variable camshaft timing control VANOS intake cold start- not controllable The fault returns when its hot outside and comes back even faster when I turn on the air conditioning.
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